How To Get The Boot From The Ford EcoBoost Challenge

"Andrew T. Maness" (theroadlessdriven)
03/16/2015 at 11:00 • Filed to: Ford, Ford Mustang, Fiesta ST, Focus ST, Happenings, Events, EcoBoost Challenge

Fun, that's what Ford encourages you to have when you hit the various stations at The EcoBoost Challenge. Fun within a certain range of safety of course but fun nonetheless. For me, just getting to drive any vehicle that I've not driven before is fun, whether that means an easy cruise around the block or finding its limits.

Beyond the" fun zone" lies the realm of "having a really awesome experience" and I reserve that for days when I'm driving a vehicle that I'm quite familiar with. I'm taking the time to explain this in detail because it is imperative that that you, dear reader, understand that I was not looking to have a really awesome experience at Ford's EcoBoost Challenge, I was just looking to have some fun. In fact up until this incident I was having a great deal of fun and everyone (well, almost everyone) working the event was very pleasant and informative.

I started off at the street drive station where I got a chance to drive the Fusion Hybrid, Expedition, Transit Connect Wagon and F-150 King Ranch. The Transit Connect was a vehicle I've been interested in for some time now because of its versatility and efficiency. They're also highly customizable and I'm a sucker for a cool van. The new F-150 has also been atop my list for vehicles to drive this year and the 3.5L EcoBoost powered King Ranch did not disappoint. A short loop on public roads is hardly a satisfactory amount of time to spend with such a well appointed truck but it's better than no time at all. Compared to the Silverado High Country the King Ranch is the better truck by a mile, both in interior quality and power (according to my buttdyno). Also, there's something incredibly cool about hearing that turbo whistle while putting your right foot down in a pickup truck.

After the street drives I headed over to the head to head challenge course where I could drive Ford's vehicles back to back with the segment leading competition. F-150 2.7L EcoBoost vs. Silverado V8, Edge Sport vs. Toyota Highlander and Escape EcoBoost vs. Honda CR-V. I was encouraged to push all these vehicles hard around the cone course and when I did, nobody had a problem with it. I clipped a cone or two with the Highlander in the "Evasive Lane Change" section and when I mentioned this to the starter he got a kick out of it. "Good thing they're just cones and not puppies or children" he said, I was inclined to agree.

All the Ford vehicles completely outclassed the competition in both acceleration and handling. The interiors of the Highlander and CR-V are an embarrassment in comparison to the Edge and Escape. I still like the Silverado interior but the bench seat layout in the midrange F-150 was pure truckin goodness. The Edge Sport was the standout vehicle for the entire day. I had more fun whipping that thing around than I did with the Mustang, Fiesta ST or Focus ST. The last generation Edge always conjured up images of bulbous women schlepping their diabetic children down to the local Wally World, this new one is something I'd proudly drive.

So having just been encouraged to go for it with a group of vehicles that aren't built with such antics in mind, I headed over the the Mustang station. I paid close attention to the safety lesson, forced a laugh when I was told not to attempt drifting or burnouts for the 5th time and then hopped into a 2.4L EcoBoost Mustang. I pulled up to the starting line, found the catch point on the clutch with ease and rolled away at a good clip without even so much as a peep out of the tires. I bled away all my speed in the braking zone as instructed, turned in, rolled back onto the throttle and the rear end rotated a little bit. When I say a little bit, I mean A LITTLE BIT. I got off power immediately, straightened the car out and continued into the slalom section of the course. I should mention that I was in 2nd gear the entire time, we were explicitly told not to go up to 3rd as there was no need for it which is absolutely correct. Now it was time for my second lap and after I got the go ahead wave from the starter I proceeded to the staging area, only this time I tapped the toggle for mode setting and selected track mode.

This is where I may lose some of you but I swear, this is the complete truth, I did not think twice about selecting track mode. There wasn't a single part of me that was thinking "I'm gonna get me some action" or "Let's see how much of a hooligan I can be". The only thing going through my mind when I hit the toggle was, "Sport mode was kinda dull, I wonder what Track mode is like." and that's it. So once again I zipped through the acceleration zone, bled away all my speed in the braking zone, turned in and the rear end rotated a little bit more than the time before and then a little bit more. I straightened out and got back on the power but instead of a controlled corner exit the ass of the 'Stang once again swayed to the side and I had to correct. I'd simply gotten back on the throttle too early and I thought to myself "ooops, that was dumb" but I quickly moved on and enjoyed the slalom section.

Before I even parked the car I saw the starter jogging towards me and I just had this feeling like when you bean a player in little league after pitching 8 great innings and out of the dugout comes the coach. The guy gets to the window and the following conversation took place.

FFP: "What was that?!"

Me: "What was what?"

FFP: "You were out of control in the corner, took out like 3 cones!"

This was news to me, I certainly didn't feel any cones like I did when I'd clipped a few in the Highlander earlier.

Me: "Well I'm sorry about that, just got away from me a bit when I got back on the power"

FFP: "Ok..."

And that was it, that was the end of the exchange. I got out of the car and headed for the Focus ST/Fiesta ST station, embarrassed that I'd not been able to control the raw power of the turbo 'Stang but certainly not thinking anything of it. I mean if a cone course in a mall parking lot isn't the safest place to accidentally get a car sideways, then I don't know what is.

Before I even got to the ST station, this woman came trotting up behind me. I thought to myself "did I forget something at the Mustang station?". Nope, she was there to let me know that she and the other employees had a little discussion and that they felt I'd blatantly ignored the course rules which is usually grounds for dismissal. At first I kind of laughed it off but then I got defensive, I hadn't intentionally committed gross acts of hooning and certainly hadn't damaged any property, unless you count those 3 cuddly little orange safety cones. Yet here I was being told that if I was a member of the general public I would have been asked to leave on the spot but because I'm an member of the auto journalist elite, I was graciously allowed to remain on the premises. I apologized, again, and made it clear to her that it was a simple mistake, a miscalculation on my part in a car that was new to me. In other words I was sorry but shit happens ya know? With that she walked away and I hopped in the Focus ST.

The purpose of the ST station was to highlight the handling capabilities of the FoST and FiST. It started with a head to head "drag race" and then a short slalom course into an S turn. It was pretty fun I suppose, the casual competition between myself and a new friend from Truck Trend was good for a laugh. I had him beat off the line the first time and he got the best of me the second time. The laughing was to be short lived however because when I pulled the FoST back into the pit the safety guy from the Mustang station was there waiting for me.

For the third time that day I had a complete stranger in my face telling me that I was driving beyond my limits, was being reckless and that normally this kind of behavior would result in being asked to leave. At this point I'd had enough of this passive aggressive attitude, I wanted them to kick me out, at least then the "you're just an asshat kid looking to hoon our cars" label they had applied to me would have been justified. Instead the guy got into a bit of high school "she said that you said that I said" and I had to fight every urge in my body to keep from busting out laughing. When I apologized for turning on track mode the guy had this look on his face like "Can you say that again but this time speak into my collar", as if I had just signed my own conviction.

That's what this was all about, I had toggled track mode which in the 2015 Mustang turns off traction control which in turn can result in fiery death. This is why I had become public enemy number one, the King in their deck of most wanted cards, a bonafide persona non grata. I know that in some cars track mode turns off traction control but I swear on all that is Oppo, I didn't think twice about that when I tapped that damn chinzy plastic toggle. All I was thinking about was the change in steering feel, throttle response and suspension stiffness. Looking back was that stupid of me, sure it was but in the moment, the thought of turning off the sissy safety controls wasn't even remotely on my mind. The guy clearly didn't believe me, you all may not believe me but I know I'm telling the truth and that's enough for me to sleep at night.

The takeaway from all of this is apparently my idea of fun and Ford's idea of fun are a bit different, so much so that I got a stern talking to by not one, not two but three people. The circumstances of my verbal shaming have been making me chuckle all weekend and I think you'll agree when I say the whole situation was completely ridiculous. Being lectured, patronized and talked down to are my 3 least favorite ways to interact with another person and I got the trifecta this past Friday courtesy of The Ford Fun Police.

But enough about me, enjoy these photos.

2016 Explorer, 2 parts Land Rover, one part Grand Cherokee.

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The seats in the Edge Sport are very, very comfortable and I like them way more than I should. Actually had me wondering what an Edge ST with Recaros would be like...

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Fun fact: The Transit Connect Wagon was endorsed by the Tall Club International as the best vehicle for the vertically gifted.

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The center stack in the Explorer is so much better than the outgoing model. Capacitative touch is gone and has been replaced with Playstation buttons which I'm very fond of, well done Sony/Ford!

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The new F-150 now has the drop window doors from the F-250 which makes it seem like you're riding higher up and makes for a very comfortable place to rest your arm when the window is down.

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Here's the Mustang I wanted to drive but as this was the EcoBoost Challenge not the N/A V8 That You've Always Wanted Challenge, I didn't get to. Still holding out hope that Ford will drop one off for me sometime. After all, I was a Fiesta ST Agent and that makes me special somehow, right?

Cheers,

-Andrew

Andrew Maness writes about cars because he has one and also has a computer. He's been known to drunkenly tweet as !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! and upload photos to !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . He also has a !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! and thinks talking about himself in the 3rd person is really weird but knows it's necessary if he wants to be taken seriously as an automotive journalist.

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DISCUSSION (62)

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 11:17

Don't pick track mode.

As Du Volant > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 11:30

I used to go to these ride & drive things whenever Chrysler introduced a new model. When heading into one of those handling courses marked off by cones I'd always ask the person supervising "I lose 1 second for each cone I take out, right?" Nobody was ever amused.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 11:32

To be fair, if you took out three cones you were driving beyond your capabilities.

spanfucker retire bitch > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 11:32

Just a quick correction, the EB Mustang is a 2.3L I4. The 2.7L EB is a V6.

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 11:34

Why would you not want to be in track mode for autocross / car testing? They could have made it clear which modes were allowed.

718Rogue > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 11:38

Hahaha. I got yelled at for about 5 minutes cause I drifted the Silverado. Well, slid it a tiny little bit. Turned traction control off on every car I drove but didn't think about track mode.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 11:41

I kind of wanted to do one of the ecoboost challenges, but now I really don't. If they're freaking out about the back being out in what is for all intents and purposes an autocross course, they're idiots. The other part of me just wants to go hoon their cars now, though and fuck the consequences. If they thought that that was scary, I'll have them shitting their pants since I'll be in time attack mode from the start.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > As Du Volant
03/16/2015 at 11:41

That's because it's two seconds, duh!

Imirrelephant > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 11:49

That's seems a bit bogus, but the Fun Police keep lawyers from breathing down Fords neck. It still seems a bit extreme. If toggling Track Mode is a bootable offense, they should make that abundantly clear.

I'm also a bit confused as to why the lined up the Edge with the Highlander. That would be more the Explorer's competition, IMO.

boxrocket > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 12:20

Sorry to be pedantic, but the F-150's had the drop-down side windows since the 2004 redesign.

Kinja'd!!!

Meatcoma > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 12:25

Kinja'd!!!

Can't tell if alcantara leather or butt sweat!

Andrew T. Maness > Meatcoma
03/16/2015 at 12:26

Haha, alcantara, was too early for butt sweat...

Andrew T. Maness > As Du Volant
03/16/2015 at 12:31

I did BMW's Ultimate Driving Experience last September and they had a sense of humor when it came to cones and "off course adventures".

Andrew T. Maness > Imirrelephant
03/16/2015 at 12:33

Exactly, at not time did they say that you would be asked to leave in that instance.

I agree with you but technically the Explorer is in the class of the 4 Runner even though the Highlander has grown to nearly 4 Runner size. Regardless, Edge is the better vehicle.

Andrew T. Maness > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
03/16/2015 at 12:37

Haha, oh man, that would be great.

You really should go check it out if you can, it's worth it to get a chance to drive all these new cars. Just save the Mustang station for the end, then it doesn't matter if they 86 you.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 12:39

Many years ago I went to Mazda's Zoom-Zoom live. I had very little interest in the Miata, but the line was super short, so I jumped in just for fun. Went out there and drifted the ever loving crap out of that poor little Miata, and took out approximately all the cones. And no one gave a single shit.

So screw Ford for not having any sense of fun.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 12:39

That's what I'm thinking, unless they have the F150 go through a cone course, because that would be scarier than a Mustang drift.

Andrew T. Maness > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
03/16/2015 at 12:40

I was told that it says no changing the driving modes on the instruction board ( that no one reads because there's a guy giving you a speech instead) but you ARE allowed to change the steering mode, buttons that are right next to each other of course so even if I hadn't been looking for track mode, I still could have claimed I accidentally selected it.

That however would have been dishonest and there's no point in lying in that situation.

Andrew T. Maness > boxrocket
03/16/2015 at 12:41

Huh, I was completely unaware of that. The F-150 specialist touted it as if it were a new feature.

Andrew T. Maness > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
03/16/2015 at 12:45

I never felt cones under the wheels nor did I see cones down on the course. I want a full investigation launched into whether or not these cones even existed!

Andrew T. Maness > spanfucker retire bitch
03/16/2015 at 12:46

Brain fart, was still thinking of the F-150.

Fixed, thank you!

Andrew T. Maness > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
03/16/2015 at 12:47

Yup, a small track is no place for track mode.

miataisme > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 12:47

I hate Fords. not because there is anything wrong with the cars most of them are great, but ever time I try and look at new Fords the people I deal with are horrible. At every dealership I've been to the sales guys have been pushy or they just don't want to deal with someone who actually does research before showing up and knows more about the cars than the salesman.

Andrew T. Maness > 718Rogue
03/16/2015 at 12:47

Were you at at Santa Anita this past weekend or Friday?

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 12:49

I don't know if "I had no idea what buttons I was pushing!" would have been better even if you wanted to be dishonest.

Andrew T. Maness > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
03/16/2015 at 12:57

They do! The street drive section goes like this.

Green Flag: Foot to floor acceleration, bleed away all speed but do not stop at Red Flags.

Left sweeper, course splits, trucks go right, SUV's go left.

Truck course has "Rough Road" section then a left into the "Evasive Lane Change" section where I was actually very impressed by the F-150.

Course ends right after that, short but fun hot lap.

Andrew T. Maness > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
03/16/2015 at 13:00

Haha, yeah it's probably the worst defense in the would but I'm sure its been used many times at the 'ol EcoBoost Challenge.

Andrew T. Maness > miataisme
03/16/2015 at 13:02

Sales guys and gals HATE when people have done their research, means the chances of pulling one over on someone have greatly diminished.

Aaron M - MasoFiST > Imirrelephant
03/16/2015 at 13:19

Yeah, when I went to the Ecoboost challenge last (around when the Fiesta ST first came out) we were told specifically not to touch the traction control. I don't think the policy has changed, but they should have been specific.

718Rogue > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 13:56

I was there on Saturday. The workers all seemed not to know what each other were doing; the first time my friend & I finished the Mustang lap we asked if we could go again and were told that we could, but after we waited through the (thankfully short) line again we were only allowed to drive the autos because "oh we're not supposed to let you go more than once, my boss is right there, you're lucky I'm even letting you drive the automatics". Shame, I was ready to rotate that thing. Also, I kind of wish I drove the Edge now. It looked pretty nice and my friend said it was fun but I was too intent on drifting trucks. Bet I could've gotten the F150 sideways too, but I didn't wanna get banned for life or something after the guy yelled at me for what I did to the Silverado. "Yeah these events are for spirited driving and you should drive maybe a 10/10, but you were going about 12/10 *angry glare*". FOH I was going maybe 7/10...

Justme > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 14:45

I agree. One cone, MAYBE two max, I could understand. But THREE? I agree. Track mode or not, you WERE driving beyond your capabilities.

Imagine those were three CHILDREN, other vehicles, private property. You didn't know you hit three cones? Seriously? What do you want, moans and screams? On the street, this would be hit and run, a felony on all counts.

It's not unreasonable to expect at least a token level of skill if you're going to use track mode on someone else's property using someone else's vehicles. Hitting three cones shows a complete lack of skill.

Please brush up on your "track" skills before hitting track mode again. Being a member of the press doesn't excuse you from a certain level of responsibility. Member of the press or not, that level of recklessness is a sure way of not getting invited to another manufacturer event.

Justme > spanfucker retire bitch
03/16/2015 at 14:47

The V6 in the 2015 Mustang is NOT an Ecoboost motor. The 305 hp "base" V6 is naturally aspirated.

spanfucker retire bitch > Justme
03/16/2015 at 14:49

Who the fuck is talking about the V6? He rode in the EcoBoost Mustang. The EcoBoost Mustang is a 2.3L 4-cylinder engine.

He said he rode "in the 2.7L EB Mustang."

The 2.7L EcoBoost engine is the V6 in the F-150 and Ford Edge Sport.

Try to keep up 'ole chap.

bryan40oop > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 15:23

" but because I'm an member of the auto journalist elite"

UnknownPerson2 > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 15:48

"That's what this was all about, I had toggled track mode which in the 2015 Mustang turns off traction control which in turn can result in fiery death. This is why I had become public enemy number one, the King in their deck of most wanted cards, a bonafide persona non grata."

If they didn't want you to be able to switch the car to track mode, then why have the toggle work? They should have had it disabled.

UnknownPerson2 > Aaron M - MasoFiST
03/16/2015 at 15:49

Ford should disable the switches if they don't want them to be used. Perhaps 2 different keys? Red (fiery death) and Black.

Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 15:54

Germans with more of a sense of humor than Americans?! What is this world coming to? You must've gone to factory in SC...

Aaron M - MasoFiST > UnknownPerson2
03/16/2015 at 16:02

That seems like an awful lot of work for a promo event where *they* have control of the courses, *they* bought the insurance policy, and *they're* determining if it's a worthwhile marketing spend. I was told "don't futz with any settings", I didn't futz with any settings, good time was had by all. People doing the opposite of what they're told to the point of Ford needing to install lockouts on the ECU seems to be a fast way to kill the event.

Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy > Andrew T. Maness
03/16/2015 at 16:04

I'm surprised they let you go around alone. I would've thought they put a car nanny in there with you telling you when you've reached you allowed level of fun for that vehicle.

Andrew T. Maness > Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy
03/16/2015 at 18:46

RIGHT?!

It was actually at an event in the exact same parking lot haha.

Andrew T. Maness > Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy
03/16/2015 at 18:47

Yeah, I was pretty psyched on driving solo the whole time, except for the street drives because that's where one could get into real trouble.

BMW lets us go out alone for half an hour in the whole lineup.

Andrew T. Maness > bryan40oop
03/16/2015 at 19:52

I do hope you just liked that line and did not take it to be serious at all.

I'm an unpaid blogger.

Andrew T. Maness > Justme
03/16/2015 at 20:01

Are you Ford Fun Police member in training?

I would never in a million years turn on track mode anywhere other than a closed course. Sport mode sure but track mode, nah, I've seen too many incidents that I want no part of. That's why when a manufacturer rents out a space and makes vehicles available to test, you're damn right I'm gonna explore all options.

What is a cone course for if not safely testing the limits of a vehicle? Yeah I'm embarrassed that I hit a couple cones but only because I hold myself to a higher standard of driving, not because I ruined some pieces of orange plastic.

UnknownPerson2 > Aaron M - MasoFiST
03/17/2015 at 08:14

I suspect the settings are already in the ECU as part of the Valet mode or can easily be programed. I believe it can even be programed with/in the car. Based on the key used, mph can be limited, radio can be locked out, ect. I know transit connect drivers that have complained about it.

Installing/using the lockouts is a good way to ensure that having the events will continue.

Converse > Andrew T. Maness
04/03/2015 at 19:54

Unknowingly you committed the Ride and Drive Cardinal Sin of turning TC off. Not sure what company is running this one, but when working any of these programs we are explicit about turning TC off followed by a conversation if we suspect it being turned off.

The reason for this is that we are planning and operating to the lowest common driving denominator. Usually the conversation is not confrontational because I've had people nearly spin because the person before them disabled everything. Repeat offenders? Walk of shame! Our future contracts and my job are not worth someone being stupid on purpose.

It sounds like it wasn't handled well at all.

Andrew T. Maness > Converse
04/04/2015 at 12:11

Exactly, was not handled well at all.

Life has a way of making things right tough, I have a fully loaded EcoBoost Mustang for the next few days, unfortunately it's an automatic but it's a start.

TVs Ron Banwart > Andrew T. Maness
04/05/2015 at 09:28

As a sales guy, I don't hate when people have done their research at all, it makes my job easier. If you do research and then come to my dealership you're probably looking to buy my car. What I hate is people that are assholes because they think I'm just going to try to "pull one over on them."

Andrew T. Maness > TVs Ron Banwart
04/05/2015 at 12:39

Can you blame them though? You're the exception to the rule, can't get mad at folks who've been soured to the whole car buying experience by years of unfavorable experiences.

soundman98 > Andrew T. Maness
04/05/2015 at 12:55

don't feel too bad. i got read the riot act this winter from an off duty cop for sliding around(recklessly driving as he called it) in a completely empty parking lot on 2" of snow.

Andrew T. Maness > soundman98
04/05/2015 at 13:19

Where was this? Dearborn?

my car smells like crayons > Andrew T. Maness
04/05/2015 at 15:54

It's essentially a test drive event, and I would want to test it the way I would drive it. To wit, how many people with multi-select suspension or auto transmission setups ever take them out of "sport" mode? Every used car on the lot has the "Sport" button turned on.

In your case, it was obvious that an enhanced challenge was necessary. Did Ford suggest any "enhanced driving classes" with their vehicles? A simple gesture/statement like "Join as at Willow Springs on the 21st to experience Track Mode!" would go a long way.

Andrew T. Maness > my car smells like crayons
04/05/2015 at 17:15

You got it man!

Luckily I currently have a loaded Ecoboost Mustang (A/T unfortunately) and I'm headed out to test the track apps this afternoon.

soundman98 > Andrew T. Maness
04/05/2015 at 17:33

a small town in northwestern indiana

TVs Ron Banwart > Andrew T. Maness
04/05/2015 at 17:42

I wouldn't say I'm the exception. I am relatively new to the business but nobody I've worked with actively tries to rip people off. Yes we're there to make money but 90% of the time it's a flat minimum anyways. I blame people that would go to a complete strangers place of work and be outright rude to them, like I'm going to mug them or something. If you hate dealerships and salespeople so much, just buy from a broker. (But then don't come in after the fact and ask me how your bluetooth works, this actually happens.)

Dunnik > Andrew T. Maness
04/06/2015 at 13:33

Yer doin' it wrong. What the marketers wanted from you is this:

DiHydro > Justme
04/06/2015 at 15:38

Keep in mind they were probably these cones , not traffic cones . I have kicked the cheap plastic cones a lot of courses use to mark the lane and not even noticed it. Hitting it with a bumper, or with a tire is not even going to make a noise.

Andrew T. Maness > Dunnik
04/08/2015 at 00:57

Haha, been awhile since I saw that, ridiculous.

Even better, here's an update.

Kinja'd!!!

It seems that on a controlled course accidental sideways maneuvers are frowned upon but a public parking lot, totally ok.

Dunnik > Andrew T. Maness
04/08/2015 at 01:14

Well of course, because liability. Also, there's a difference between these two headlines:

"Man crashes Mustang at Ford's Eco Boost Challenge"

"Man crashes Mustang in Empty Parking Lot"

Andrew T. Maness > Dunnik
04/08/2015 at 15:14

Indeed.

It's just funny that if someone crashed a Mustang at Eco Boost Challenge it would be better than them crashing in an empty parking lot, just not for Ford PR...

Andrew T. Maness > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
04/13/2015 at 12:26

Found the video I was looking for, I believe in my driving abilities.

Andrew T. Maness > Justme
04/13/2015 at 12:26

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Andrew T. Maness
04/13/2015 at 12:30

Doesn't mean you can't go past them on occasion.